Together with artist Naz Hoque, I ran a 10-week project with a group of young people working with the Youth Offending Service in Barking and Dagenham via New Town Culture. On the surface, this was a skills-based project: participants planned, scripted, recorded and edited their own podcasts, complete with artwork and music alongside. We used free software and gave young people microphones to take home, with access as a core value. But for me, building relationships with young people who are in challenging circumstances was the real success of the work. Young people made podcasts exploring their relationships with peers, social workers and family through lyrics, dialogue and sound design.